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85cc dad

Postby Moto lepine63 » Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:11 am

If you were a Moto DAD. Would you buy a 85cc with a power valve or would you buy a yz85cc
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Re: 85cc dad

Postby Dano67 » Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:12 am

I am a moto dad, had the same dilemma this year and for me the question was one of price and simplicity. A YZ85 is two grand cheaper then a SX85 and I can buy a whole pile of parts for that coin. Also it is straight forward to work on and has been around forever so all the bugs are worked out. As for Kawasaki and Suzuki I can't really say anything one way or another other then personally I prefer Yamaha.
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Re: 85cc dad

Postby chillrich1 » Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:05 am

We went with with older KTMs 2008 and I have seriously questioned that decision. Even the older SX are technologically more advanced in regards to powervalve, hydraulic clutch and suspension but they aren't really reliable and are expensive to fix.

A few examples;
New cylinder $1000 msrp
cylinder base nut $8
OEM piston $140
OEM crank $430

And if you decide to go with a new Orange mini bike, check with the the bank first!!! Blackfoot had the best price out west at $5800 out the door. The other good thing is the 105SX, not available in new models but we have a 2008 85 17/14 wheels and 2008 105 19/16 wheels. These bikes are identical except for wheel and topend size, so always spare parts and always a bike to ride while one is broken.

I like Yamaha but the kid thinks they look goofy with the single side shroud. If your rider is on the pipe all the time the lack of powervalve will not likely be an issue. be prepared to spend some $ on suspension for the faster riders as well as new bars, lever upgrades, chain/sprockets, pipe/silencer etc. I heard through the grapevine that the 2016 YZ85 may see some changes.

If I could do it all over again I would lean towards 2 YZs an 85 and a supermini. Get engines tweaked a bit, put on a pipe/silencer and get suspension done.

If you do go with pre 2014 orange 85, pm me and I have some information I have collected which may be useful for repairs.
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Re: 85cc dad

Postby three9zero » Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:25 am

After selling dirtbikes for 12 years, I'd say the tech wise the KTM's are top notch. But I will tell you, lots of moto Dads have told me that your wallet thickens once your kid gets out of the 65cc class(Dominated by KtM), and you can buy the Japanese stuff.....
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Re: 85cc dad

Postby ragdoll » Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:40 am

after coming of cobra 65 with the power valve we went to the rm 85 with power valve and haven't had much of a learning curve
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Re: 85cc dad

Postby Samsdad » Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:54 am

Stick with the YZ's. Stock motor, gearing for the track and suspension work. Twist it enough and the twins will wear out the podiums.
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Re: 85cc dad

Postby desTroyer » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:16 pm

Hands down go green the new kawis are easier to ride than yamaha and the parts are way cheaper than ktm also u can get a 13 or older for cheap we just left the minis sons on a 250 f now
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Re: 85cc dad

Postby malachi77 » Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:09 pm

My son raced his RM85 for three years (now on an 08 RM125). Bike handles great, awesome engine...seriously wicked. Great low end/mid and a nice top end. All I did was add a PC works pipe/silencer, flat slide carb off an RM80, boyesen reeds, boyesen hi-flow impellor, AVS unbreakable levers. I shipped his full suspension off to RG3 which was the biggest $$$$ upgrade but well worth every penny. Very reliable bike, and other then top ends and a clutch....ZERO issues. There's a big myth about Suzuki being inferior quality...but I say BS and it's just that. Myth. It's not the late 80's anymore. They are quality bikes.
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Re: 85cc dad

Postby ragdoll » Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:17 am

we have a rm 85 with 120 hours and has had a complete motor job just because and piston and rings jobs when needed great bike was a stock class lorettas bike

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